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The Shadow is the mysterious guardian of the Orbs, hunting down and killing anyone unable to fully take control of the Orb. It chases after Daniel relentlessly.

Daniel cannot fight back against this living nightmare, or hope to hide from it. All attempts to banish it have failed, all Daniel can do now is flee from it for as long as possible.

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Where the Shadow passes, it leaves behind a fleshy organic residue that is harmful to skin and bone. If Daniel is too close to this residue, Daniel's sanity will decrease. Sometimes, Daniel has to jump on this residue in order to pass by.

As Daniel progresses through objectives and travels deeper into Brennenburg Castle, more of the fleshy substance is visible because Daniel is getting chased by this so-called Demon. The residue can be seen to have human skulls, parts of rock, and occasionally whole limbs stuck in it. The flesh is very strong and elastic, it cannot be damaged by tools or brute strength. Only certain types of acid can dissolve a thin webbing of it, though given time will regenerate as the Shadow's influence intensifies. When it corrupts the Back Hall it turns the water from the fountain into blood. The Shadow's more sudden appearances are accompanied by violent shaking and loud echoing roars.

Although it is likened to a "beast", the Guardian actually demonstrates that it is very intelligent. It pursues Daniel quickly as the young man tries to escape it, whereas when it finally has him cornered it'll slowly advance on him, taunting him, almost savoring the moment as it closes in for the kill, Daniel is tormented by his thoughts of his father because he was abused as a child. It also knows about Daniel's fear of the darkness and will often blow out or obscure all sources of light as it passes, but Daniel's oil lantern is helpful for all situations. The Shadow notably hates Daniel having high sanity and will often roar just to lower it.

Though the Guardian safeguards the unnatural power of the Orbs from thieves in order to protect the Universe, and has killed many people to achieve that end, it may spare some robbers' lives. When Agrippa discovered his first orb in the Prussian forests, near Altstadt, he was caught by the Shadow but not harmed. It reclaimed the Orb and carried the man miles away across the Alps to a grassy field outside Genoa. It's ultimately up to this otherworldly force's discretion if the victim is mutilated, or completely devoured.

Johann Weyer was the only one since the fall of the Mithraic faith who managed to assemble an entire collection of orbs and separate the living nightmare, that is the Shadow, from them. He could use their power without incurring the cosmic beast's wrath, but he had very little control over the Guardian itself. In 1558 he was able to summon the Shadow within an Orb Chamber in Calais to consume some murderous French soldiers so he could claim the mystic relic they had found, but he could not then stop it from swallowing up everything and everyone around it and had to flee.

At the beginning of the game, the Shadow was pursuing Daniel because he had taken an Orb that resided in an African tomb in Algeria. Though the young man was not directly harmed everyone else he came into contact with was brutally killed afterwards. In order to seek refuge from this ancient horror, Daniel travels to Brennenburg Castle, where the baron Alexander promises a means of warding off the Shadow.

Alexander repeatedly mentions that Daniel is "tainted" and "branded" by this supernatural force. The meaning of these labels concerning the young man is not understood, as Baron was intentionally being cryptic. To 'taint' something is to contaminate it, whereas 'branding' someone is to mark them indelibly, indicating ownership. Whatever he was implying it is certainly obvious that the Shadow knows exactly where Daniel is and is never far behind.

It will not allow Daniel to escape it via the portal Alexander creates in the Orb Chamber, because he's "branded" so the cosmic force literally "owns him". It causes the young man pain whenever he tries to pass through the gateway himself. Alexander coldly states it makes no difference, even if Daniel could travel beyond the Universe, it would still inevitably catch and consume him either way.

Occasionally The Shadow roars when Daniel does certain things, like making progress or entering a new area, the castle shakes but the red residue does not appear. It will constantly hinder his progress, blocking the most direct route to Alexander. If Daniel tries to leave the castle via the Entrance Hall in the beginning of the game, however, red flesh covers the door, preventing his escape.

It proves itself to be unstoppable in its hunt for Daniel. From the towers of the castle, to the toxic Sewer tunnels and the bottomless pits of the Chancel, no environment deters or hinders its expanding organic matter. It works very similar to the gameplay mechanic of an "advancing wall of doom".

While this fleshy residue is easily seen even in the darkest reaches of the castle, there is no mention of it before Daniel arrives in Brennenburg. In the journal entries the Shadow is described as a completely invisible force. A bright red aura is often radiated when large masses of flesh join together. Also, though this residue is known to be left by the Shadow, the being itself is never seen. It is unkown if it has physical form at all. All that can be assumed is that the ancient horror is gigantic. The stomping noises made as it chases Daniel gives a feeling of its immenseness. The movements it makes when following Daniel cause all of Brennenburg Castle to tremble. It makes the ground quake, and fells tall trees. It also makes the castle start to cave in.

Encounters Edit

The Shadow starts to chase Daniel
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The Shadow hounds Daniel and thus is constantly confronted throughout Brennenburg Castle. It is responsible for the unnatural darkness that shrouds the rooms in Storage. If Daniel lights some candles it will randomly roar causing the entire environment to go darker still. Any lit candles and his own lantern will also glow with an eerie dark red.

Curiously, this supernatural entity interacts with the monsters it comes across differently. When it consumes the Cellar Archives and Cistern, it allows the Kaernk to appear and attack Daniel. Without its influence and flooding the cellars, the water monster wouldn't have been able to even pursue Daniel in this area. Whereas with the Gatherers, a Servant Grunt was seen lying in a bloody mess somewhere in the Sewers. It tore Alexander's servant apart.

When Daniel repairs the machine that powers the elevator in the Back Hall he enters the lift just as the Shadow swallows up the entire area. The guardian advances through many floors, and overtakes the shaft as it tries to stop him. However, the cables snap in the process and the elevator plummets down to the Prison before it can consume Daniel.

Interestingly, if Daniel waits too long in the Cistern, the Shadow unintentionally allows him to escape this area. While it does block the normal route of escape and summons another Kaernk to contend with, its flesh actually forms a "bridge" leading out into the next room that Daniel may walk over safely.

Although described as "sluggish", the Shadow can occasionally move much faster than normal. When Daniel escapes the Cells, a tense pursuit between Daniel and The Shadow is initiated and the red residue appears at a much quicker pace. Should Daniel cover a lot of distance the guardian will advance even quicker, only slowing down a little when it comes across shallow water. Being caught during the chase means immediate death.

The Shadow bellows angrily when Daniel completes Weyer's Tonic for Agrippa. It does not want the young man helping the dying alchemist, knowing full well it would mean Daniel has to abuse its orb's power to help another.

When Daniel enters the Inner Sanctum to confront Alexander, another tense pursuit between the young man and this cosmic persecutor commences. Fortunately, Daniel is able to slow it down by closing a huge door buying him precious time to break the final seal to the Orb Chamber where the Baron waits. The Shadow overtakes the area with its organic matter and roars angrily when Daniel leaves the area.

The Orb Chamber marks the final encounter with the Shadow in the Dark Descent, one that will result in three different endings depending on what Daniel decides to do next. Allowing the ritual to take place, either by doing nothing and watch Alexander escape, or throwing Agrippa's head through the portal will result in him being consumed by the Guardian.

Furious with him for either allowing another to abuse his orb's power, or misusing it himself, the cosmic force devours him. Daniel's conscious is sucked inside the Shadow, a dark void, with the only sounds are sickening squelching of the beast's fleshy matter. If Daniel decided to save Agrippa, he asks Johann Weyer to work on a way to save him. If not, Daniel faces the cosmic guardian alone without any hope of escape and his worst fear is finally realized as he's trapped forever inside its absolute darkness.

If Daniel chooses to stop the ritual, the Shadow will overtake the chamber. Alexander's escape-bid is foiled and he screams that they're both going to die. However, the Guardian is appeased by the length and effort that Daniel went to stop the Baron from misusing the Orb. It will not roar at him or frighten the young man by blowing out all the lights. Even its organic tissue doesn't hurt him to touch. The Shadow spares Daniel, and for his earlier transgressions, only devours Alexander as atonement. No longer hunted, Daniel is free to leave Brennenburg with a guilt-free conscience.

Speculation Edit

  • One of the Loading Screens states it is not some "vengeful spirit" but the very Universe catching up and trying to contain the Orbs. If this is true, the manifestations of its fleshy matter imply the very cosmos that Daniel and everyone exists inside of is actually alive and sentient. It maintains itself, guarding the Orbs and hunts down whoever seeks to use them because if they try to leave it, that is the Universe, these "escapists" may threaten its stability.
  • The religion Mithraism seems to be connected to the Orbs in some way, so it is possible the Mithraists believed the Shadow was either their god Mithra himself, or the giant bull being slaughtered in the iconic scenes monuments of which Zoroastrianism interpretations depict him or another deity slaying the primordial bovine Gavaevodata whose fleshy matter becomes the progenitor of all life.
  • It is not explained how the Orbs contain their unnatural power, or why the Mithraists could invoke them without getting hunted and killed by the Shadow. Weyer and Daniel (temporarily) were able to use the Orbs without incurring the Guardian's wrath. Its possible the Orbs choose their holder. Or maybe the Shadow deemed them worthy of handling such power, but not Alexander, Agrippa or Herbert, who would likely use it for their own advantage.
  • Daniel may be "branded" or "owned" by the cosmic guardian simply because he touched the orb and by doing so, became "tainted", inadvertently invoking the relic's powers and channelling them into himself. This might be why his intuition is so high and how he can recall foreign memories not belonging to him. The Shadow may now regard Daniel as much of its possession as the mysterious artefacts it usually guards, hence why its so obsessed with him that it would kill anyone who dared make contact with him, and even ignore the two orbs currently residing in Brennenburg, making no attempt to recover them.
  • While the Shadow is hunting Daniel relentlessly throughout the game, it is plausible that the nightmarish force originally had no intentions of harming Daniel, even though he took one of its orbs from the archaeological expedition to Africa. It did not actively hound him down to start with, merely content with following behind its orb carrier.
  • Why the Shadow didn't simply take back the orb or dispatch Daniel as soon as he left the burial grounds is unknown. It's possible it choose the young man to weld the orb as it saved his life in the tomb. It could have also spared Daniel in the beginning since he did not take the relic to wield its otherworldly powers for personal gain (indeed, he was oblivious to them) but simply to preserve it in a museum. He also did not remove the orb from the burial grounds, he was unconscious and forcibly carried away by Herbert's men with the broken orb shards in his hands.
  • In the Choir Daniel is taunted by Alexander via telepathy who tells him he's responsible for all the deaths because if he had only "submitted to the Orb" when he first discovered it none of the bloodshed in Brennenburg would have happened. If true, if Daniel had not tried to flee from it but merely accepted the Orb's Shadow and yielded to it's superior will, the events of The Dark Descent would not have occurred.
  • Daniel spellbound by dreams, fell overboard from the SS Hortensia headed for London. Beneath him in the dark Atlantic waters something very large tried to take him away. The current caused by it moving pulls him underwater and Daniel nearly drowns, but then he is raised up and put back onto ship, by what he doesn't know. The crew of the ship did not respond to his distress. It happens so calmly that he wonders if it was all another dream. This unseen beast may have been the Shadow making an attempt to abduct him, and then abandoning the course of action.
  • There is no explanation given for why the Shadow did not consume Daniel in Africa or during his stay in London. It could have easily done so at any point. Herbert recovering the second orb may have served as a distraction initially, but it wouldn't have taken it long to catch up to Daniel who eventually arrived back in London on the 22nd of June 1839. The Shadow only mercilessly murdered those who Daniel contacted enquiring information about the ancient relic, it made no attempt to take Daniel's life. When he learns about Professor Taylor and Sir William Smith's fate, Daniel immediately jumps to the conclusion he's next. Fearing for his own safety he flees on 17th July 1839, but does not once rationally consider that he's been staying in the same area for 25 days and yet no harm befell him during that entire length of time.
  • Given that Daniel was not himself attempting to study the orb, merely asking others to do so, it could be that any attempt whatsoever to harness the orb's powers, including simply studying it, is enough to provoke the Shadow. Seeking Alexander's help and performing the "warding rituals" could perhaps be seen as attempts to use the orb, thus ironically bringing the Shadow's wrath upon Daniel.
  • After taking the orb Daniel's sleep was strangely plagued with nightmares, as if a voice were calling across the void. The vivid dreams enabled Daniel to rebuild his orb. This may have been the Shadow's early attempts to communicate with him.
  • If the Shadow was trying to use nightmares to converse with Daniel, it would explain why it murdered Dr. Tate despite Daniel not taking the orb along with him, or discussing it. His physician simply gave him medication to stop these frightening dreams. His interference no doubt antagonized the monstrous force. Evidently as it killed him within 48 hours, whereas it gave the marked Prof Taylor and Sir William Smith each over a week to live. On the other hand if The Shadow regards the "branded Daniel" as its property, the doctor simply examining him for a check-up would anger it in much the same fashion as inspecting its Orbs.
  • It is possible Alexander provoked or angered the Shadow thereby deliberately turning it against Daniel, since it was merely content to slaughter only those Daniel had been in contact with. When Daniel fled to Brennenburg, he believed that Alexander would protect him from this force and convinced him they can banish the guardian of the orb. However, on 8th of August 1839 Alexander tampers with the artifact, Daniel has no idea what he is doing with the strange tools. Suddenly the invisible force around Daniel now materializes, and the walls burst with pulsating tissue. After this point the Shadow is notably enraged, it roars and cries constantly, and now threatens to consume the entire castle and Daniel along with it.
  • Why Alexander would risk the guardian's wrath is unclear, he may have attempted to simply tame its power or intentionally doom Daniel in order to usurp the orb's power from him and add its energy to the one he took from Agrippa. Either way, it now threatens Daniel giving him the incentive to cooperate fully with the baron since the Shadow is brought out in full-force and is actively hunting him. The blood wards Alexander has Daniel perform cannot banish it. These only serve to distract the guardian's blood-lust and anger it further. It could even be holding Daniel personally responsible for allowing Alexander to invoke its orb's power and why it'll devour him in three of the four possible endings.
  • Only when the Shadow absorbs the Chancel does one of Daniel's diary entries appear. Its the one marking his downfall as he realises what he has become after murdering Zimmerman's innocent daughter. By bringing it back The Shadow may be forcing Daniel to relive the crippling-guilt of his former-self's actions, specifically the awful memory that old Daniel couldn't bear to live with before taking the Amnesia Drink. Also, in the 'Bad Ending', it may be haunting him with the awful memories of all those he tortured to death in Brennenburg.
  • In order to use the orb long enough to perform the ritual without being killed the Baron may have turned Daniel into a sacrifice for the Shadow. Alexander hints at this several times, saying that "things can be done, but at a price" and urging Daniel to offer himself up. It might offer another explanation for this entity's unusual behaviour, since it is hounding Daniel, but ignoring its orbs.
  • If Alexander did infuriate the Shadow this would explain why it only killed him in the 'Revenge Ending', and left the 'redeemed Daniel' completely unharmed.
  • In the 'revenge ending' Daniel flees Brennenburg, but it cannot be certain if the shadow has departed forever, or turned back into its original "invisible-state" prior to Alexander's meddling. What is interesting is that castle Brennenburg collapses once Daniel leaves and not before. Whether this was the Shadow's doing, i.e. waiting for him to get to a safe distance, or purely coincidental is uncertain.
  • A strange red aura is visible around Daniel as he walks back out through the castle. The guardian may be following him again since Daniel is still "branded" or because it cannot reclaim its stolen orbs back, as they've already evaporated away.

TriviaEdit

  • Alexander was the one who gave the pseudonym "The Shadow" to describe the enigmatic cosmic beast. The true name of the Guardian of the Orbs is not known.
  • The cosmic nightmare moves much faster outside Castle Brennenburg than inside the thick walls. The structure is the only thing that is slowing down the surrounding Shadow and preventing it from instantly swallowing up the hapless Daniel.
  • Shadow can assume an "invisible form" if it wants to. There is no mention of the supernatural entity's fleshy residue according to Agrippa and Herbert in the journal entries. It can only be heard roaring or baying and can only be 'seen' as it interacts with the environment.
  • Throwing objects into the flesh-covered walls such as crates or bottles can result in them either being lodged in the organic matter or hurled back out with great force. If pushed into the pulsating matter, The Shadow can easily destroy these large crates and unbreakable big bottles that Daniel may find lying around.
  • It takes almost three minutes for Alexander to complete his ritual and then the Shadow slowly arrives to kill Daniel, but if Daniel disrupts or stops the ritual the Shadow invades the Orb Chamber almost instantly, likely because the ritual Alexander was preforming was probably also holding the Shadow at bay.
  • In the bad ending the guardian kills Daniel much slower than Alexander in the other endings. Although should he abuse the orb himself and save Agrippa in the 'special ending' the entity will engulf him very quickly.
  • In the 'revenge ending' all traces of the Shadow's fleshy residue somehow mysteriously vanish, most likely because the Shadow has departed.

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  • The shadow could kill Daniel whenever it wanted to, but it wanted to see if Daniel could hold up his end of the deal: kill Alexander. Every time the shadow consumes a room, it's telling Daniel: there's no turning back. Either you kill Alexander, or I kill you. If Daniel tries to go back, the shadow injures him saying: there's nothing here. Continue on. When Daniel encounters a gatherer, the shadow watches to see if Daniel can be fueled by his anger at Alexander to avoid death. The chase scene in the cells was the shadow trying to get Daniel to hurry since being captured ate up a lot of time. When Daniel does something relating to use of the orb, the shadow roars, saying: you better know what you're doing. The shadow consumes the outside area of the sanctum, warning Daniel: this is your last chance to set things right. The shadow waits outside of the sanctum waiting to see if Daniel can do what he said he would or watch helplessly as Alexander abandons him.

    So in some ways, the shadow is Daniel's ally.

    • I agree except at the cells. I think it's like, "you failed to satisfy me. You shall die." Since Daniel escaped, it gave him another chance ONLY because Daniel continued to press on to kill Alexander


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  • When my bro first told me about the Shadow, I (metaphorically) sh** my pants. I thought it was this flat, creepy a** thing that's completely jet black with terrifying claws and tries to rip you to pieces. Now I don't have to pee in my pants any more. :)

    -Jebidijed

  • Maybe it's just Fegelien playing a deadly Prank?!

    • Nazi: Sir, the Shadow has caught up with you.

      Hitler: Don't you think i realize that? There is organic sh** EVERYWHERE! I think it's that damn Fegelien playing a trick on me, FEGELIEN! FEGELIEN! FEGELIEN!

  • IT LOOKS LIKE...idfk

  • This game is complicated.

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  • The Shadow keeping the universe and hunt down those who wants to leave the universe because if they escape, they will threaten the universe's stability,

    Is there anyone who stupid enough to leave their own universe just to find another?

    Is the Shadow representing a godly-being?

    • Well curiosity and a quest for knowledge is one good reason, I mean if you acquired the power to travel to another realm or plane of existence it would be very tempting. Some are power-hungry, others like Alexander are desperate to reunite with loved ones. Besides, if there's another universe where Justin Drew Bieber doesn't sing in it, count me in. ;)

      I guess its some kind of nod to Lovecraftian horrors or deities like the "Great Old Ones" or "Outer Ones"...

    • FINE!!! I'll ignore what you've said about JB (I called him You-Know-Which-One)

    • I agree!! I want to find a universe where Justin Bieber doesn't sing! Where is it?

  • "The Shadow bellows angrily when Daniel completes Weyer's Tonic for Agrippa. It does not want the young man helping the dying alchemist, knowing full well it would mean Daniel has to abuse its orb's power to help another"

    I always wondered until now why the shadow kills daniel after putting Agrippas head in the portal.

    Also how did Daniel get back to the entrance? If the elevator was destroyed and the ladders to the Sewers were broke, how did Daniel get back? We can't forget the monsters too I doubt the shadow killed them.

    • The Shadow doesn't want Daniel misusing the Orb.

      There must have been another way out of Brennenburg. Its also possible the Shadow provided a safe passage out for Daniel IF he stopped Alexander misusing the Orb.

    • So what does Daniel do with Agrippa's head if he doesn't use it and knocks the pillars instead?

  • well there is also a fourth ending and its to stay in the cell you are in after the grunts capture you and the shadow will kill you and the "ending credits" will pop up

    • Acually, that is just another way of getting the "Bad Ending". Alexander thanks you just as he does when you let him pass through the portal.

  • I think Alexander controls the servants. I seem to recall Alexander saying the following lines in Prison/Cells/Transcept: "He escaped?! Where is he now?" "Soon it will be ready..let there be enough time!" "Well, it's for his own good" It hardly seems far fetched to think Alexander is capable of communicating with the Servants on a telepathic level. After all, that's what he does with Daniel too right?

    • Well, Alexander IS a telepathic being. But the servants, I don't know.

    • The servants may be telepathic...because if they arent they wont be able to understand what alexander wants and even talk to him if they arent telepathic i would think Alexander may be insane too talking to himself...

    • Perhaps the servants used another otherworldly language that Alexander understand?

    • but if they are telepathic beings, why couldnt they just poke around inside daniels head to see where he was hiding, it would kind of ruin a bit of the game but it just always bugged me

  • Does anyone know what exactly killed that Grunt in the Sewers? As far as lore is concerned, all of the Shadows victims 'only' get horribly deformed right? The Grunt in the Sewers was clean cut of its arms and legs..

  • If the Brute was controlled by The Shadow, that would explain why the Service Grunt in the Sewers was cut apart, and not simply mulched like the rest of The Shadow's victims

    • The same Brute that tore down a gate? So it killed wrecked the bars, killed the Grunt, left and repaired the gate, then showed up again when Daniel entered the room? I highly doubt it. The timing of the Shadow overtaking that room and Alexander freaking out is too coincidental to overlook...

    • no there seems to be more than one brute considering one is chasing you through the sewers before the gate is broken. so the hypothesis of the brute being the one to kill the servant grunt isnt wrong but may or may not be able to be disproven.

  • I'm pretty certain the Brutes are controlled by the Shadow... because you never meet them at the same time.. (apart from a visual appearance once in the prison? although sadly I never found this) the loading screen descriptions and diary entries seem to indicate the brutes are shadow-formed.. and they only spawn in the chancel after it has been overrun by the shadow..

    • I don't think the Shadow wants or needs servants. Hmm there are arguments for and against I suppose. If Brutes are controlled by Alexander, it would explain why they are working in the Prison where there is heavy Grunt presence. One of them was torturing a prisoner, and in a flashback an "arsonist" was being taken by one through the Sewers...

    • Then again if it did have servants, wouldn't they resemble the Guardian somewhat? Horrific fleshy humanoids wandering around? There's an idea for the sequel...

  • I wonder what happened to the people sacrificed...Does the shadow torture them forever? Or host them inside itself so they can exact revenge on Daniel/Alexander. Either way is sad and horrifying at the same time.

    • They weren't sacrificed to the Shadow. They were tortured to death to extract Vitae for Alexander's ritual to open an inter-dimensional gate.

    • Yes, but if Daniel lets Alexander go and Shadow consumes him, he hears the victims' voices. It must consume at least some part of them. However, it may just recall Daniel's memory.

  • I wonder. Death is final for Justine. So, is the Shadow the one bringing Daniel back to life every time he dies? Restoring his health but not his items. Putting somewhere out of harm or rewinding time? Giving him sarcastic "death hints" if it, or some else, befalls him? Because while it does want to kill him, yet also gives him the chance he needs to redeem himself and stop Alexander? It wants to see what'll he do if given the choice? And if he decides to let Alexander or Agrippa escape it'll eat Daniel and not bring him back to life, resulting in a bad or special ending.

    • Haven't you read the information? The Shadow wanted Daniel dead as soon as he used the orb to keep it at bay. The encounter on the elevator was a failed attempt at getting him, and it also made many attempts to hinder Daniel's progress and even kill him, like with the Kaernk in the Cistern.

    • The Shadow behaves -oddly- though which is why I thought it could kill him at any time if it really wanted to. It was ticked off with him yeah, but curious if Daniel would make good on his promise of revenge and stop Alexander from using its orb. Its stopping Daniel from retreating. It takes over every room but doesn't always chase him, unless its hurrying him, if you get what I mean. If it catches him in the cell chase, it'll give him a head-start next time...If Daniel waits in the Cell or fails in the orb chamber, it slowly overtakes him, then gets pissed off either cause he's not going to stop Alexander or he's failed to, so it results in game-over.

    • And also apparently it is not the Shadow who revives Daniel and gives him tips. It's just the game issue and the tips are more likely to be given to the player itself rather than Daniel

    • actually while i was in the cell waiting for the fourth ending i heard about (turns out it was the bad ending) it suddenly just stopped taking over the cell, i hadnt done anything, and was just standing on the fleshy thing. i waited standing on that thing for a while but didnt use any health potions (laudanim) and never died, just went down to "barely conscious". i tried that in an earlier part and still didnt die, thus somewhat validating the theory of how the shadow deosnt want to kill him

  • Chuck Norris is the shadow.

  • The anagram of "The Guardian Of The Orb" is: Dragon of Habiture! and IF A GOOD HEARTBURN ;D The anagram of "The Shadow" is: HOT WASHED! =D The anagram of "Shadow of the Orb" is: BROW OF HOTHEADS <D

  • I wonder what the shadow really looks like. I don't really intend on finding out.

  • Is it possible that Daniel "is" the Shadow? After taking the amnesia-potion and passing out, is it possible that the shadow had caught up to him and is using Daniel to chase Alexander?

    For ever step closer you get to Alexander, the castle fills up with the red-gunk...perhaps that is Daniel (and the Shadow) conquering that section of Brennenburg. Furthermore,during the "revenge" ending, the gunk starts to recede, perhaps the Shadow has killed its target and no longer needs to be there?

    What do you think?

    • That's not what the game would have us to believe. Daniel isn't the Shadow, but rather "branded" and marked by it. When the game speaks of "Daniel casting a terrible shadow" and the "Orb's shadow" it is speaking metaphorically because this entity is... difficult to describe. It relentlessly dogs an orb-carrier "like a shadow", but the Shadow is in name only, for it isn't actually a shadow at all. Its chasing Daniel because he handed over the orb to Alexander, of all people. If Daniel thwarts the ritual and stops the Baron misusing the orb, it forgives him and spares his life. Whether it truly departs is open for debate because its red aura is still around Daniel...

    • heres how i know this is not true. the pliant left behind is painful to daniel, and the shadow is roaring while chasing you in the inner sanctum and you have to hide until it breaks the wall down to get to where alexander is.

  • Okay, I adjusted my monitor's settings and finished the game's revenge scenario again and noticed a strange red aura around Daniel as he walks back out through the castle. Is this my monitor? Because I watched some YouTube walkthroughs and spotted it on theirs too. Is that the same aura associated with the Shadow or a visual effect? Its odd to ignore...

  • "Wikia contributor" updated the article saying the dismembered Servant Grunt found in the sewers next to the fleshy residue may have been killed by a Brute. I'm not sure about this. I thought the Gatherers all work for Alexander as his loyal servants and wouldn't (or couldn't) turn on each other as the Baron has them under his complete control. What do you all think? Was the grunt dispatched by the Shadow or the Brute?

    • I thought the Shadow did it when I first saw that Grunt. But then again, it is cut perfectly in half, as if struck by a Brute's blade. It is unlikely that the Gatherers would turn against each other, but there is no solid proof that Brutes are working for Alexander. They might be just be stray Gatherers, wandering around the castle, killing anything they see. They also did not participate in Daniel's capture, despite one of them being present in the Chancel. So did the Brutes kill that poor Servant Grunt? Unlikely. They are both Gatherers serving Alexander (presumably). However, if Alexander couldn't control all of them (the only time they actually worked together was in Daniel's capture), then it might be possible they could turn on each other.

    • I'm not entirely sure Ipswitch1. The Shadow is more than capable of splitting people right down the middle and slicing them up, according to Daniel's diary entries. I don't know if Alexander had any difficulties controlling the Gatherers at any point, I'll have to play through again to see if I missed anything. ^^

    • I believe that the Brute killed the Grunt because Brutes are normally patroling the Sewers and the Grunt was stray and wasn't meant to be there

    • There's no evidence to say Alexander had trouble keeping the Gatherers in order or they would tear each other apart. The fact that the Shadow had consumed that room the Grunt lies in and Alexander simultaneously screaming at Daniel to stop because the Shadow is following him wherever he goes killing anything in its path indicates it is the Guardian's doing. You'll need to provide something more concrete than an assertion, at the moment this idea can't even go in "speculation". The edit won't be changed as "irrelevant" yet, so its still up for talk.

    • Yeah, but they also have varying levels of intelligence, so they might have varying levels of allegiance to Alexander.

    • ^ I take that back. Upon watching that part again, you find the grunt's body in a room full of the Shadow fleshy things, where there were previously none in the Sewer, and Alexander tells you "stop, you're taking the shadow along with you!". I think that's pretty irrefutable evidence that the Shadow did it.

    • turn on each other? If they do, why wouldn't they creating some kind of rebellion or something like that? I mean like some kind of resistance Gatherers against loyal Gatherers.

    • According to their in-game behaviour, they are too stupid to rebel against their master. Moreover, their bodies might even be inhabited and controlled by the spirit servants of Alexander from the same world that he himself came from.

  • Hmm, doesnt one of the loading screens say The Shadow isn't a vengeful spirit but actually the universe restoring its order? I dont know the exact line though. Just thought that would be interesting.

  • Iiiiinteresting. I never thought of the shadow this way. I'm very thankful for this article.

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